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An Open Letter to Women Who Care About Their Birthing Rights

December 12, 2012

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December, 2012
To the Assistant to the Attorney General of Arizona
Director of the Arizona Dept. of Health
Arizona Office of Special License-Midwife Licensing

And to all the women that are concerned about their birthing options….

Two years ago, I served a wonderful, passionate, loving woman whose dream it was to birth at home after a cesarean years ago. She was amazing and strong and healthy, and so was her baby. She did not achieve her vaginal birth at home, but to no one’s detriment or fault. She and her baby were never threatened, and the outcome, although not what she desired, was favorable. To this day, I am not one bit regretful that I chose to stand by her. Her options in our rural area were to birth alone, or to agree to an elective cesarean at the local hospital. No woman should be forced into that choice. Her body, her baby, her choice to make. Birth at home with a midwife, even for a VBAC woman, is supported by evidence.

She had every right to be cared for and supported in her choice, and unlike many other midwives, I chose to not lie about it. I chose to not pretend I was unaware she had had a cesarean birth. What I chose was truth, and the truth really does set one free. Telling the truth and standing up for her and my beliefs was the best thing I have ever done. I do not regret one moment of it. After two years of being pursued by the State of Arizona for doing absolutely nothing except supporting a woman that no one would–I realize the real truth.

The real truth is that birth cannot be controlled. Women cannot be controlled, although you may try. Birth is not medical and it is not a medical event. It is not the duty of any state to determine how, where, why or with whom a woman births. It is not the business of the government to know women’s personal histories, their birth stories or anything else. Forcing a subpoena on me for client’s charts was not effective; you threatened me to get to them, and all to please a doctor. I have never, ever had a complaint filed against me by a client or her partner or her family. I have given compassionate, respectful, competent, research-based, motherbaby focused midwifery care. Let it be known that the ONLY complaints against me while licensed were from two doctors in the same rural hospital who are against and threatened by home births.

(In addition, a peer review of five experienced midwives in Arizona agreed. They deemed that my care on the three occasions that produced “complaints” from local doctors was every bit responsible, appropriate and even conservative. Shame on you, Arizona, for not having a peer component to your licensing “board”. Shame on you for ever making licensing involuntary. And as we all know, Arizona is only one of four states that licenses midwives and does not allow VBACs at home with midwives. This does not support current research.)

It is sad, but expected, that the “department” of licensing in Arizona chose to not investigate these complaints before threatening me with my license. They took the words of doctors, filed over the internet, above and beyond one of their licensees and any of my clients. It doesn’t add up, really, because there are Licensed Midwives I know of (illegally) attending VBACs, and to my knowledge, no other midwife has been harassed or disciplined (other than a Licensed Midwife being fined several years ago for attending a VBAC) by the “department” for what is “prohibited care” (this also includes twins and multiples). Midwives in this State have, do and will attend these women. I may never know the “whys” or “hows” I was pigeonholed, and I have made peace with that. I know enough to know that the dealings of the last two years have been unprofessional and revealing. They have confirmed my realization that birth is not the business of anyone that has not created the baby. And that licensing does not protect women, babies…or midwives.

Arizona has an archaic, conservative attitude that is hurting mothers and babies. This need for control, for perceived “safety” of moms and babies has been detrimental to a woman’s choice, and to true midwifery care. The Department of Health and the licensing office have no idea what it means to be a midwife. They have no idea what it is to have a baby, or to hire a midwife, or what makes normal birth “safe”. I am saddened that the word “midwife “in Arizona has come to mean “medical care provider”, and that the use of drugs and interventions is part of “normal” birth at home. The irony is, unbeknownst to you, these drugs and interventions create birth that is NOT safe at home. You have created the exact threat you think is being avoided. You’ve spent the last two years and lots of government money pursuing me, but you are barking up the wrong tree. My hope is that the women will eventually realize how severely their birthing rights have been limited; and because birth is a human rights issue more will begin to challenge the status quo.

I am a birth attendant. My loyalty is to women that choose me to serve them, and you can never take that away. Owning the term “Midwife” is ridiculous; however, please remove the title, “Licensed Midwife” from my name, and accept my request to take it back. I am purposefully not renewing my license, and will not be practicing midwifery in Arizona any longer. The women of Sedona no longer have the option of local home birth with an experienced birth attendant.

Thank you for helping me find my truth in birth. I started my career as a licensed midwife thinking that I made birth safer, or that I controlled it somehow. An arrogant attitude that many midwives hold. I now know I couldn’t have gotten it more wrong. I serve women, I guide them as they take back their births. Thank you for helping me find this truth; my truth in birth. I could not have done it without you.

“I found goodness in the place that I once believed to be evil; and found evil in the place that I once always knew to be good! The truth is so far separated from where I thought it existed. It can be such a wild, unbound journey: the journey from the illusion into the truth. Some people take that journey, but more people don’t.”
― C. JoyBell C.

With many blessings,

Maryn Leister
Former Arizona Licensed Midwife #159

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  1. indigomidwife says:

    <<<>>>> Maryn, that was awesome, inspirational, and incredibly, incredibly STRONG of you. I dream of one day being able to write something similar. You are an inspiration and I applaud you for standing in your truth and in the truth of birth itself. You are an amazing woman and the universe has guided you to a new path. I see that you are open to it and that takes an amazingly strong woman. BRAVO!

  2. Thank you sweet sister! I am sure you will be led to your truth as well, even if by a different journey….But what a blessing we have, really.  A chance to realize what we are about, what birth is about.  Blessings to you too.

  3. You have my support and best wishes! 
    A fantastic and strong letter. Continue to empower yourself as you do other women! 

  4. Erin L says:

    Thank you for sharing this. Licensing does not protect midwives, allow women MORE access to midwives, or make midwives respected by the medical community, and this proves it. Not all states that require midwives to have a license ban VBACs YET, but it could very easily happen.

  5. Denee Metzger says:

    Incredible Maryn-you have made me so proud as a woman,a mother and a homebirther.

    What is right isn’t always easy,and what is easy isn’t always right.
    You have done good 🙂

  6. Thank you for your support.  I am so relieved that there are other women, such as you, that are able to spread this truth.  No one can do it alone, and women need to hear it.  Blessings to you.

  7. USAdeloresdoyle says:

    Could you post the four states v-bacs aren’t allowed in and since when? Is it dictated by hospital protocol or actual state law? The use of pitocin out of hospital (in birth clinic or anywhere else), was acknowledged as illegal in the early 90’s by protocol of hospital, when a doctor was given a 40+ year sentence for using it on some momas whose babies either died in hospital, home, other. One was stillborn after transferred to a hospital. Hospital protocol also dictates that pediatricians are required to be present at every birth OR send another pediatrician (medical doctor) in his/her place. Here in California, none of the pediatricians I’ve ever known or have asked about has ever attended births of midwives.only one time did a pediatrician ever attend the birth of momas my doctor and I attended…the pediatricians routinely tell momas that they have 72 hours by law to bring their babies to their office to be given their initial pediatrician check (specialized check-up). According to law and hospital protocol, they are lying and putting families at risk. If your pediatrician tells you you have 72 hours post birth to have your newborn checked, get his signature on a prescription or letter, signed by him in front of you.Have you ever heard of a this?

  8. USAdeloresdoyle says:

    You are very BRAVE. I am proud of you!

  9. Only FOUR states do not allow VBAC by licensed midwives at home:

    Alaska (1999), Arizona (1977), Arkansas (1983), and South Carolina (1976/2004).  However, check out the rest of this document to read about the restrictions in states where VBAC is “permitted” at home but is restricted enough to make that difficult.In general, what you state is a prime example of how licensing is not serving moms or babies.  And how in many places, it’s kind of a “joke” as far as the ridiculousness of rules and regs.  Do you know in Arizona it is a rule to transport after the admin if IM pit? How many midwives do you think follow that rule?As a mother as well, I always wonder, if women knew…REALLY KNEW about the government involvement in their birth, many would not choose it.  It is our job to enlighten parents and teach them and show them.Below is the link about VBACS (the state of AZ is currently opening the midwife rules/regs and getting the approval to attend VBACS legally at home is on the list):http://www.azdhs.gov/als/midwife/documents/reports/additional/vbac-summary-other-states.pdf

  10. heatheritstwinsanity says:

    THANK YOU!  I wish that there were more midwives like you.  Thank you for your courage in taking a stand and for your loyalty to the birthing mothers you serve.  Our choices are being taken away right out from under us… I just had my UBA2C in Arizona 5 weeks ago, in a town where the ONLY hospital has a VBAC ban.  

  11. susan dinatale says:

    Dear Maryn, may i use parts of this for my own letter to women in Delaware? it is a kick butt letter…

  12. Heather says:

     Dear Maryn,

    Thank you for your service to women, your honesty, and your letter.  I am an unintended consequence of the state of birth in Arizona.  I sought a VBAC in Page, AZ a few years ago, only to have the rug pulled out from under me a mere two weeks before my due date.  Midwives were prohibited from attending me, and doctors refused to.  Travel was not a reasonable option.  You know that Page is not well known for its bursting metropolis and many options for anything, let alone birth.  I was alone.  My choices were to either birth at home without any care provider at all–an option with which I was uncomfortable at the time–or “consent” under duress (I was provided with false risk information, and subtly threatened if I did not comply) to medically unnecessary major abdominal surgery. 

    You and I both know that the evidence shows that when compared to VBAC, repeat c-sections are associated with higher mortality rates for both mother and baby, and the risks only increase for subsequent pregnancies with each consecutive uterine surgery, whereas they decrease upon successful VBAC.  I suffered from PTSD–a disorder I would not wish upon my worst enemy–for over three years after having to make that terrible decision. 

    Thank you for the quote at the end of your letter, for it is true for me as well.  My next baby was born in my home…”unassisted.”  I’ve since moved away from AZ, in part because of their assault on human rights in childbirth, but my next baby is due any day now, and will also be born at home, this time, in a State which is supportive of midwives.  Should anything go not according to plan, I can transfer to the local hospital without fear of harassment, and without wondering if my midwife will be afraid to stay with me.  THAT is how to protect birthing women.  Not with arbitrary rules which have no basis in evidence. 

    These several experiences have led me to pursue midwifery myself, so no woman within my reach will ever have to make the awful decision Arizona and Page Hospital forced upon me.  I, also, have come to a place of gratitude.  Without that assault, I never would have found my truth in birth.  I never would have considered birthing at home.  I never would have found my calling in midwifery.  And I never would have met all the amazing women I have since had the great privilege of knowing, who have also experienced shocking abuses because of birth politics in this supposedly “free” country. 

    Thank you again for your testimony.  I wish you nothing but peace in this next stage of your life. 

    Heather

  13. Susan….thanks and yes! Of course I am interested what part you use, etc and if I may read your letter, I would be so honored!  Thanks for your support and wishing you the best in serving women.

  14. Congrats on your unassisted birth!  As a birthing mother myself in Arizona, that was my choice as well for my last birth.  Even as a midwife, I knew I did not want the “state” at my birth; and unfortunately, in hiring a licensed midwife, that is what you now get.  Thanks for your support and for birthing on your own terms:)

  15. Thank you for your honesty, Heather, and all the best on your upcoming birth.  Your name sounds familiar, I wonder if we may have spoken before your last birth.  If that is the case, I apologize for not having seen the light as it were before then, and denied walking with you.  It has taken me these couple years and experience to truly find my truth and to serve women, and women only.  I am so thrilled you are pursuing midwifery, as a I know you will be a gift to women in this day and age when women struggle so much to find their own truth in birth.  If I can help you on your midwifery path at all, please let me know!  Blessings on your soon to be earthside babe, and for a beautiful experience.  

  16. This bring tears to my eyes. I couldn’t be more proud to “know” you, Maryn.

    ~ Kasie

  17. This bring tears to my eyes. So honored to “know” you, Maryn.

  18. And I to know you….:) Thanks for your strong support, women like you are like sisters to me!

  19. For what it is worth , i am very proud of your courage and i am very glad to know of a woman with such honor, that she will not lie about what is right, to please an audience watching ,waiting to pounce.

  20. Vanessa says:

    Love!

  21. Thank you Babz…that very much IS worth something to me.  I have high hopes that even just one woman would give the situation more thought.  That just one woman would realize how her rights are being taken away, right from under her nose.

    Many blessings to you and thanks for your support.:)

  22. Heyabibi says:

    Maryn,
    Spoken like a strong, knowledgeable woman who speaks her truth and fearlessly shares valuable information with the rest of us who may have been ignorant of Arizona’s policy regarding options for childbirth at home.

  23. Adrienne Leeds says:

     I was about to link this to our state midwives’ group when I noticed it is no longer working!  rats!  is the pdf document saved anywhere? 

  24. Gretchen says:

    You are a rockstar! Thank you for standing up for what is the truth. 

  25. Joy Horner says:

    I am currently a registered independent midwife in the UK. Your letter really resonates with me as the midwifery situation for independent midwives is precarious. We have worked without insurance because there was no affordable insurance available, now we have to have insurance to remain on the midwifery register after february 2014. We have an insurance product but need government backing for it to work. If they do not back us we will not be able to practice as registered midwives. Independent midwives will practice illegally.to support birthing women who wish not to have their births controlled or managed by outsiders.
    So bless you Maryn for continuing to be truthful, serving women and your own integrity.
    In sisterhood, Joy. Xx

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